{"id":3211,"date":"2011-10-31T21:18:38","date_gmt":"2011-10-31T21:18:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.polymathperspective.com\/?p=3211"},"modified":"2019-07-08T17:20:40","modified_gmt":"2019-07-08T17:20:40","slug":"piers-allardyce-taking-faces-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/?p=3211","title":{"rendered":"Piers Allardyce: Taking Faces (Part 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In Part 1 of our interview, Piers described how his interest in people led to a career in photography, working for music publications such as the <em>Melody Maker<\/em> throughout the 1990s. In Part 2 Piers talks about the equipment he uses, explaining his working methods and his views on the art of photographing people.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 hundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-overflow:visible;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last fusion-column-no-min-height\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy\"><div id=\"attachment_2402\" style=\"width: 691px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2402\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2402\" src=\"http:\/\/www.polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Michael-Caine-Barbara-Windsor-by-P-Allardyce-681x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"681\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Michael-Caine-Barbara-Windsor-by-P-Allardyce-200x301.jpg 200w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Michael-Caine-Barbara-Windsor-by-P-Allardyce-400x602.jpg 400w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Michael-Caine-Barbara-Windsor-by-P-Allardyce-600x902.jpg 600w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Michael-Caine-Barbara-Windsor-by-P-Allardyce-681x1024.jpg 681w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Michael-Caine-Barbara-Windsor-by-P-Allardyce-768x1155.jpg 768w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Michael-Caine-Barbara-Windsor-by-P-Allardyce-800x1203.jpg 800w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Michael-Caine-Barbara-Windsor-by-P-Allardyce-1200x1805.jpg 1200w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Michael-Caine-Barbara-Windsor-by-P-Allardyce.jpg 2130w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 681px) 100vw, 681px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2402\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Caine &amp; Barbara Windsor, Museum of London, London Wall<br \/>27 May 2010<br \/>This is one of my favourite photographs of two British 60&#8217;s icons.<br \/>They may have moved in different circles but there is clearly a lot of fondness and mutual respect.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Branching Out<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>At least for a time during the early part of his career, Piers supplemented his photography with an income derived from various odd jobs he\u2019d established over the years. By his own admission, he was living fairly comfortably compared to some of the younger journalists he was working alongside. \u201cI wasn\u2019t cherry picking jobs,\u201d insists Piers, \u201cI was taking jobs that were on offer to me, but I was travelling quite a lot and I had quite good equipment.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI didn\u2019t have any studio lights at that point. I may have had a tripod, but that was fairly useless in the job that I was doing and wasn\u2019t required. But I had some early Canon equipment and my favourite Canon cameras were the T90s. I wasn\u2019t using zoom lenses at the time so I had six or seven prime lenses, but I didn\u2019t take particularly good care of them, I seem to remember. I was working in very rowdy environments at the gigs. Sometimes there wouldn\u2019t be a pit at all and I\u2019d get pushed around quite a lot, just because of the swaying of the crowd, the stage diving and so on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For a time, Piers got by using very little equipment and became confident to the point of complacency. Inevitably, he received an unwelcome wakeup call, when a job went horribly wrong.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt took me a while to get the handle on things, really,\u201d says Piers. \u201cI should have been more experimental but I used to try using available light as much as I could and with an early commission I nearly blew it and could have lost my job.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI remember going to Subterranea and photographing the Stereo MCs, in the autumn of 1989. I was feeling cocky and I thought I didn\u2019t need to take my flash with me because there would be loads of available light. I didn\u2019t know anything about the Stereo MCs, it was a small stage, a fairly wild audience, and there was no light. I just thought, \u2018Oh my God, I\u2019ve just completely fucked it!\u2019 I remember there were only three frames out of about two rolls of film that were even vaguely printable. Luckily I survived the day, but I remember my live reviews editor saying to me, \u2018You\u2019ve really gone down in my estimation.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFrom there on in I played pretty safe having learnt not to take quite so many risks. I always made sure I had all the equipment that was necessary and always took more pictures than was necessary. Of course, you have to remember that this was pre-digital so there was no playback. Quite often it was guesswork about the exposures because the lights on stage were constantly changing. Sometimes I wouldn\u2019t use flash and that would influence the pictures. Sometimes the spotlights would override what the camera was saying. I wasn\u2019t fully manual so I was relying on a mixture of manual and auto settings.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI didn\u2019t make any further cock-ups until several years after joining <em>Melody Maker<\/em> when I was called up to <em>Q Magazine<\/em> and worked for them for a couple of years. I remember going to a Kylie Minogue gig to do a shoot for a particular page that I monopolized for a number of months.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe venue put me miles away from the stage and I didn\u2019t have a big lens. I think it was somewhere like Wembley Arena where normally you\u2019d be put front-of-stage in the pit, but because there were pyrotechnics that night they decided to put all the photographers at the back of the venue. We are talking a great distance from where the action was happening. So I had to borrow a converter to stick on my camera.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I got home I developed the film, but just before I put it in the dryer I had a look at the reverse side of the negative, which was in a roll of 36, and to my horror, the image was really, really faint. For some reason the images hadn\u2019t come out and at that point I remember feeling really quite ill.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI thought, \u2018I\u2019ve really screwed up big time here,\u2019 and to this day I am not entirely sure what happened. I think I must have put the camera on some kind of manual setting without realizing that the converter loses two stops of light. I think that\u2019s what happened, but whatever the reason, it was a shocker.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI can\u2019t remember where <em>Q Magazine<\/em> was based in those days but I remember climbing three or four flights of stairs and taking a deep breathe before walking into the office. It felt like I was back in school wearing shorts, about to walk into the headmaster\u2019s office. I was overcome with nausea, and I started sweating and tingling.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI walked inside, held my hands up and said \u2018I\u2019m really sorry, but this is what\u2019s happened.\u2019 I told the truth. Luckily I\u2019d already met another photographer who had been to the same gig and I asked him to supply pictures. He\u2019s called Mick Hutson. Over the years he has worked for all the heavy metal magazines as well as <em>Q Magazine<\/em> and lots of record companies. Strangely enough, because he supplied pictures, that opened the door for him.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-1 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last fusion-column-no-min-height\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy\"><div id=\"attachment_2399\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2399\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2399\" src=\"http:\/\/www.polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce-680x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce-199x300.jpg 199w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce-200x301.jpg 200w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce-400x603.jpg 400w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce-600x904.jpg 600w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce-680x1024.jpg 680w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce-768x1157.jpg 768w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce-800x1205.jpg 800w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce-1200x1808.jpg 1200w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Gilbert-George-by-P-Allardyce.jpg 2523w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2399\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gilbert &amp; George, at home in Fournier Street 2 February 1997<br \/>These two reminded me of a couple of Gerry Anderson puppets in perfect harmony. They moved and talked as one as though they were conceived in the same womb.<br \/>After the photo session was over I was asked to identify a pattern through a microscope. &#8220;What do you see&#8221; they chorused. Before<br \/>I could answer they said &#8220;stenguns!&#8221; Too embarrassed to disappoint them, I agreed.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Digital Days<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Digital photography has made it possible for the photographer to see whether their shots have worked or not straight away, giving them a chance to make any necessary corrections on the spot. Nevertheless, there is still, unfortunately, enough scope for things to go wrong as Piers recently found out when he was forced to do a reshoot.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere was one time about two years ago which was the first and only time that I reformatted the card without downloading the images, so I lost all the information. Luckily I was able to go back and do the job again and, because it was just a series of portraits in an office, it wasn\u2019t a big deal in the end. I escaped pretty lightly!<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut I think the obvious positives of digital are that you can leave a job knowing that you have got what you need because of automatic playback. That\u2019s very reassuring. There are other advantages as well. You don\u2019t necessarily need a light meter and you don\u2019t have to understand the relationship between shutter speeds and apertures. Very few people could walk into a dark room and decide what kind of exposure they were going to have, coupled with the shutter speed, so digital makes a big difference. Also, you don\u2019t have to spend your own money to make money. In other words, you are not buying or processing film.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen digital photography was just beginning, photographers used to charge clients a post-production fee for downloads, editing, CD burns \u2013 that kind of thing. But increasingly, as wages have stagnated and digital photography has taken hold, photographers are less inclined to charge for post production, unless it is actually proper Photoshop work.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI use a program called Apple<em> Aperture<\/em>, for example. I import all the pictures into that piece of software and tweak every single image, correcting the colour temperature, contrast, exposure and sharpness, and cropping the final image. I shoot in raw mode so I can do the edits and convert to JPG afterwards. I do all these things to the image and don\u2019t charge the client for that so they get a full package. That way I stay in business.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere are photographers who do charge for those things, but they are probably few and far between, I would say. Before with film, although you had to find a lab, the beauty of it was that you\u2019d hand over your films, go away for an hour-and-a-half or two hours, read a book somewhere then go back again and pick it up, and you wouldn\u2019t have worked any harder! You might have kicked your heels around town, but it wouldn\u2019t have been all hands to the deck and didn\u2019t feel like work \u2013 you could indulge yourself for a couple of hours.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI have to say, I am not a big fan of digital photography, particularly, even now. It feels too simple \u2013 it feels like cheating somehow. There are other reasons too. I not entirely happy with the condition of the pictures in terms of the way they look. My feeling is that film has a hidden depth \u2013 a kind of quality that digital isn\u2019t necessarily capable of producing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAlso, there is the instant gratification with digital photography that you don\u2019t get with film. I remember the mounting expectation before dropping in on the lab, going over to the light box, slapping the transparencies down in strips and ogling each individual transparency with an eye glass. Those days are long gone but I miss that process in a funny kind of way.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat I don\u2019t miss, of course, is trekking to and from different offices with the hard copies \u2013 I don\u2019t miss that \u2013 but I do enjoy emailing images; that\u2019s the upside. It\u2019s really quite satisfying knowing that they are no longer in my hands and are whizzing their way to their various destinations.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Clearly digital technology has had a dramatic effect on the working lives of people in the photographic industry. Many have gone out of business, particularly those producing film-based products or developing them. Piers explains how his working day has changed over the years.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt has changed quite a lot. There\u2019s less footwork involved; less trips to buy film and chemicals \u2013 just less trips generally. Now you go to the place of work, take your pictures, come home, download, edit, and the image filing is simple. You just have to be careful not deleting anything, and there are various fail safes for that as well.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am lucky that I have only ever experienced possibly two corrupt memory cards. They don\u2019t corrupt as much as they used to. I think the technology behind that has improved significantly. In the early days of digital photography there used to be a time lag between seeing what you were taking and what the camera grasped. It used to be as much as half a second sometimes. So you pressed the shutter button and actually didn\u2019t get what you saw. That was during the infancy in the late \u201990s very early 2000s when the technology simply wasn\u2019t there.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-2 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last fusion-column-no-min-height\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy\"><div id=\"attachment_2411\" style=\"width: 692px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2411\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2411\" src=\"http:\/\/www.polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Piers-Allardyce-self-portrait-2-682x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"682\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Piers-Allardyce-self-portrait-2-200x300.jpg 200w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Piers-Allardyce-self-portrait-2-400x601.jpg 400w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Piers-Allardyce-self-portrait-2-600x901.jpg 600w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Piers-Allardyce-self-portrait-2-682x1024.jpg 682w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Piers-Allardyce-self-portrait-2-768x1153.jpg 768w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Piers-Allardyce-self-portrait-2-800x1201.jpg 800w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Piers-Allardyce-self-portrait-2-1200x1802.jpg 1200w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Piers-Allardyce-self-portrait-2.jpg 1550w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 682px) 100vw, 682px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2411\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Piers Allardyce self portrait shot at home 17 March 2011<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>The Allardyce Kit List<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Having been in the business for more than two decades, Piers has had plenty of time to refine his collection of camera equipment so that he has everything he needs, but not so much that he can\u2019t easily carry it from one job to another. He talks through the various bits and bobs.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI always have two of everything. A couple of years ago my flash gun exploded making a big bang and it stopped working. It frightened the hell out of me and I didn\u2019t know what had happened. That had never happened before but fortunately I did have a backup with me.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo, I have two flash guns, cameras, power packs and lots of cables. I always carry three different types of lenses with me. First there is the 70 to 200 which is a 2.8L series Lens which allows maximum light availability, so it\u2019s top of the range, really. You can\u2019t get better than the 2.8 70 to 200. I also carry a 16 to 35 and 24 to 70 which are also both L-series 2.8 lenses. So those are the three lenses I carry but I should probably carry backups for those too. The problem is that the more stuff you take with you, the greater the loss if something happens \u2013 either by theft or if something simply gets mislaid. So that\u2019s very much in the back of my mind as well when I go out to work.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOccasionally I feel vulnerable, depending on where I am going, but I never use metallic cases or anything that looks particularly photographic. I usually use a suitcase that you would put clothes in or a small carry-bag type with a handle, and these days I don\u2019t actually use a rucksack at all.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe price of lenses has been static for the best part of 10 years but a top lens cost between \u00a31250 and \u00a31300. They are actually a snip at the price, though, because the glass they use is very superior and a camera is only as good as the lens. You have to have good optics.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI got into using the T90s pretty much from the beginning, and I stuck with those for a while. I\u2019ve got about three Eos1N 35mm film cameras under my bed which replaced the T90. They have been gathering dust, but in addition to those I had three medium format cameras as well. I had a Rangefinder which was 6\/7 inches. I still have a Mia RZ6\/7 and a Contax 645. I used all three of those cameras in the latter years of <em>Melody Maker<\/em> just before it closed because the resolution of a 35mm camera just wasn\u2019t good enough for a cover shoot really.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut I have to confess that I was never happy using them, mainly because I was worried about soft focus. I haven\u2019t mentioned that about six years ago I had eye laser surgery; I wish I\u2019d had that earlier. I wore contact lenses from the age of 23 but the problem with contact lenses, particularly towards the end of the day, is that your eyes get tired and the lenses feel a bit greasy and sometimes they stick fast to your pupils because they become dry. And I could never be sure what I was focussing on terribly well. It was really tough with the Rangefinder because the error was much more extreme in terms of its focussing. You had to be really spot on with it\u2019s depth of field. It had lots of different split screens you could use, where everything would come into alignment within the prism or viewfinder if you focussed, so that was quite helpful, but I would go through two or three because, although my eyesight was telling me one thing, my brain was telling me another and I had this terrible heave-ho with my imagination about what I was focussing on.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThese days I use a Canon EOS 1D Mark IV and a Canon EOS 5D Mark II.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAs for lights, I have four Bowens Esprit Digital 500DXs. They work in increments of a 10<sup>th<\/sup> of a stop, so they are very sophisticated lights. Once again, like my lenses, they are top-of-the-range. They are not the largest lights, but they are not the smallest either, and they are quite expensive. They are probably \u00a3430 each, and then you have to add things like the cables, the spill kills, and then of course you have to buy stands, a mixture of brollies, soft boxes, honeycombs and a light reflector.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI also have a portable power pack as well for studio lighting, but unfortunately that has given up the ghost, so I am going to have to invest more money in that and they don\u2019t come cheap. For two lights, or heads as they\u2019re called, and a power pack you are looking at about at least \u00a32500, I\u2019d have thought. You have the ability to plug the power packs into the mains or you can just use them out and about on location without any power supply.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-3 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last fusion-column-no-min-height\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy\"><div id=\"attachment_2390\" style=\"width: 693px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2390\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2390\" src=\"http:\/\/www.polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Bill-Clinton-by-P-Allardyce-683x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Bill-Clinton-by-P-Allardyce-200x300.jpg 200w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Bill-Clinton-by-P-Allardyce-400x600.jpg 400w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Bill-Clinton-by-P-Allardyce-600x900.jpg 600w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Bill-Clinton-by-P-Allardyce-683x1024.jpg 683w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Bill-Clinton-by-P-Allardyce-768x1152.jpg 768w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Bill-Clinton-by-P-Allardyce-800x1200.jpg 800w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Bill-Clinton-by-P-Allardyce.jpg 990w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2390\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bill Clinton 1 December 1999<br \/>Photos by Piers Allardyce 07976 724 390<br \/>Bill Clinton adddresses the Princess Diana Memorial Lecture on HIV?AIDS at the Queen Elizabeth Conference Centre.<br \/>This shot of Bill was not posed. He was deep in thought about the speech he would later make.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Less Is More?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When it comes to taking pictures, Piers is a strong believer in trying to get each shot right rather than clicking away and hoping to capture something good along the way. In his opinion, digital photography, where hundreds of images can be stored on a single card, has encouraged people to be more carefree with their shots, thereby shortening the life of their equipment.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe other thing with digital technology,\u201d explains Piers, \u201cis that cameras and flash guns have to be much more robust because you shoot probably three or four times the number of images than you would normally with film. A lot of photographers take a very scattergun approach to taking pictures. I think it was Spike Milligan who famously said to a photographer, \u2018Right, is that it, are we done?\u2019 and the photographer said, \u2018but I\u2019ve only taken three frames!\u2019 so Spike Milligan said, \u2018well, that\u2019s enough Silver, I\u2019m off!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI do a lot of social diary photography which means I am quite often meeting other photographers at events and there is one photographer that I met on the circuit who takes hundreds of picture of maybe just a dozen individuals. I said to him, \u2018Why do you take so many frames?\u2019 and he said, \u2018I can whip through them really quickly, I have this technique where I can see what\u2019s going on.\u2019 But I just think it is putting added stress and strain on the equipment. But he has a very kind of paparazzi approach to his work, so he\u2019s waiting for something unforeseen to happen.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo, photographers don\u2019t necessarily wait for that decisive moment. What they sometimes do is treat still images like a film frames and rapidly fire off dozens of frames on the same subject. I\u2019ve seen photographers take pictures again, again and again of the same subject and I\u2019m thinking to myself, \u2018That person\u2019s expression hasn\u2019t changed. You are just making more work for yourself with the edit.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s something I don\u2019t understand because I think less is more. If I take a frame I always speak to my subject and say, \u2018Each time I take a frame I want you to do something a bit different.\u2019 I ask them to move their head, change their expression or body language, or perhaps change the location. I get people to stand up and then sit down again; move around the room and I check all the different vantage points and perspectives.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat way you end up with something less filmic and more varied. That\u2019s the discipline of shooting on film. But the thing about digital is that people think that just by pressing the button again and again they are achieving results, but they are ending up with the same result. And the problem with trigger-happy photography, particularly where things aren\u2019t going to change dramatically, is that it shows a lack of nerve.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-4 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last fusion-column-no-min-height\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy\"><div id=\"attachment_2408\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2408\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2408\" src=\"http:\/\/www.polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce-1024x565.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"565\" srcset=\"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce-200x110.jpg 200w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce-300x165.jpg 300w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce-400x221.jpg 400w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce-600x331.jpg 600w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce-768x423.jpg 768w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce-800x441.jpg 800w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce-1024x565.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce-1200x662.jpg 1200w, http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Paul-Tonkinson-by-Piers-Allardyce.jpg 2213w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2408\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Paul Tonkinson, Shot in Westminster 8 April 2008<br \/>Paul was heading up to Edinburgh for the fringe and needed a concept for a show about being comfortable with middle. I suggested<br \/>the seven stages of man. Paul said five would be plenty. I think it works very well.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Taking the Time<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When an interviewer finishes questioning their interviewee they still have days of transcription and editing ahead of them when they get home. By contrast, when the photographer finishes the shoot and packs up they can focus on the next. It is therefore possible for photographers to earn relatively large sums of money if they can line up several jobs in a day, although they may not have time to take anything of value from the experience. Piers has a view on what constitutes the right length of time to spend doing a job.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDepending on the logistics, some photographers, particularly the ones who work for agencies, can probably get four or five jobs in a day,\u201d say Piers. \u201cIn London I am talking about now. It\u2019s hard work and of course that\u2019s dependent on the amount of time spent on that particular job, the distance incurred \u2013 that kind of thing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m particularly conscientious; sometimes I\u2019ll overstay my welcome to get what I need. I know now more or less when I\u2019ve got the picture. It\u2019s a combination of experience and instinct. It\u2019s knowing that people aren\u2019t particularly volatile and that things aren\u2019t going to fundamentally change from one minute to the next.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think what\u2019s really interesting about photography is time and space. Time is a big factor and all sorts of things happen within a particular time frame. You get to know how long something is going to take before the moment elapses and things change. It\u2019s a bit like judging the direction of the wind, in a funny kind of way. If someone is being particularly extrovert then you take more pictures, because their facial expression will change more often whereas if you do a corporate job, you find that business people tend to maintain a very similar expression. They are also shyer of the camera and don\u2019t particularly enjoy the experience so you want to make it as painless for them as possible.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou will spend more time taking pictures of someone famous because they enjoy the experience and they are capable of more moods and expressions. I\u2019ve found that especially true of comedians. I\u2019ve photographed lots of comedians for their Edinburgh fringe shows, where I\u2019ll do a studio shoot with them or go on location somewhere, and they are capable of a myriad of expressions, moods and aspects of behaviour. You can spend hours with them, run off hundreds of frames and they\u2019ll all be different.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Piers has been a photographer long enough to have formed some definite opinions on what personal qualities a photographer needs to have in order to make a success of their career. He identifies several as being on a par with one another.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI would say patience is really important. Never become flustered, always be calm and show you are in control and that you know what you are doing. Also, being liked is very important. If people don\u2019t like you they won\u2019t trust you and if they don\u2019t trust you they won\u2019t want to work with you. It also has to be remembered that the chances are that your paths will cross again at some point, and so if you want an extra mile from them \u2013 something a little bit different and a bit more exclusive \u2013 you need them to like you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou have to remember it is a very artificial situation, much like hosting the news or presenting a chat show, so you are putting on the smarm. I\u2019ve often sat in on interviews where the interviewee is being really charming, then as soon as the tape stops running they revert to type, so it can work both ways. It\u2019s harder to do the more spontaneous things because people tend to pose, unless you stay long into the evening when they start getting drunk.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut I carry on the chat even if I have stopped taking pictures. That\u2019s what I meant when I talked about wanting to leave a job having learnt something about the person I\u2019ve photographed. That\u2019s really important otherwise it is all a little bit meaningless. There is a tendency for people to hide behind the camera when they are working. It\u2019s complicated because an extrovert is less likely to be a photographer, because photography requires someone who is meticulous, steadfast, and isn\u2019t displaying their own personality to get what they want. But actually, what you need from a good photographer, I think, is someone who is extrovert and flamboyant but can also do the technical things. If you get a mixture of the two then you\u2019ve got a winner.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn conclusion to that, if you look at some fashion photographers, particularly the really famous ones, they are good fun to be around, because they are constantly chatting and putting people at their ease. Of course, they have an advantage because they are working with models who know what to do.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWorking quickly is essential, it really is. It is better all round for everybody, but particularly for your subject. You need to work quickly because they will grow tired and weary and possibly troublesome over time. Then you lose the spontaneity and that is everything in photography, because they need to be relaxed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a good learning curve to step in front of the camera sometimes and understand the predicament in which you are putting your subject. Quite often I forget because I am behind the lens rather than in front of it. It is unnerving when a lens is trained on you and there is a mixture of emotions that go on. Self consciousness is one thing, obviously, where the person is thinking, \u2018What do I look like, am I presenting the best side of myself, will I look handsome, will I look pretty? Should I be thoughtful, should I smile or not? So the subject feels a whole range of emotions, whereas for the photographer it is often largely mechanical, and that\u2019s why they\u2019ve got to have good interpersonal skills. I think that\u2019s really important, and I do meet a lot of photographers who just don\u2019t. They are nice photographers, but they are nervous themselves, half the time.\u201d <em>TF<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Part 3 of our interview with Piers can be found here:<a href=\"http:\/\/www.polymathperspective.com\/?p=3213\"> Part 3<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>To return to Part 1, click here:<a href=\"http:\/\/www.polymathperspective.com\/?p=3209\"> Part 1<\/a><\/strong><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2402,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[25],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3211"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3211"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3211\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3737,"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3211\/revisions\/3737"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/2402"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3211"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3211"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/polymathperspective.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3211"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}